
This is doing the rounds now on the innerweb
Archbishop Vincent Nichols ‘offered flowers at the altar of Hindu deities’
“Archbishop Nichols, what were you thinking? Your own press office has reported that you offered flowers at the altar of Hindu deities during a visit to a temple.”
(UPDATE: since this post went up, the relevant sentence has been removed from the Westminster diocesan website.)
I don’t have any trouble with interfaith dialogue. It’s a good thing and is very important in our times – something which Vatican II is absolutely right about. However, I think that in the course of such meetings there are certain difficulties which present problems for Catholics: this is one such issue. What does a Catholic, especially a priest, bishop, or cardinal do, when presented with a public situation where he is expected to honour, show reverence, light candles, offer flowers, or do any other form of sacrifice, to a (false) pagan god(s)?
St Justin Martyr, was indeed martyred in Rome for refusing to sacrifice to the Roman pagan gods. Here is the account of the discourse between St Justin and Rusticus, the Prefect of Rome, under the Emperor Marcus Aurelius.
“The Prefect Rusticus says: Approach and sacrifice, all of you, to the gods. Justin says: No one in his right mind gives up piety for impiety. The Prefect Rusticus says: If you do not obey, you will be tortured without mercy. Justin replies: That is our desire, to be tortured for Our Lord, Jesus Christ, and so to be saved, for that will give us salvation and firm confidence at the more terrible universal tribunal of Our Lord and Saviour. And all the martyrs said: Do as you wish; for we are Christians, and we do not sacrifice to idols. The Prefect Rusticus read the sentence: Those who do not wish to sacrifice to the gods and to obey the emperor will be scourged and beheaded according to the laws. The holy martyrs glorifying God betook themselves to the customary place, where they were beheaded and consummated their martyrdom confessing their Saviour.”
What if St Justin, had thought, “Well, maybe I should show these guys that I respect their cult, and after all, that will make a better case to them for the Gospel of Christ, because it will show them that I am reasonable…and balanced…and not extreme…”
We are living in different times, and that is why Vatican II has shifted the focus somewhat – to respectful dialogue, but that doesn’t mean that we just sell-out, due to human respect, everytime somebody asks us to honour a god that we don’t believe in, that we know to be patently false, and objectively speaking, an idol. Do you think that standing up for Christ just might have the effect of giving witness to Him !?#$!&?*!@? and allow the Holy Spirit to anoint the action?
Damien Thompson writes:
This is a blunder, however well-intentioned. Inter-faith dialogue is a minefield for Christian leaders, as Pope John Paul II discovered when he prayed alongside non-Christians at Assisi in 1986. This visit sounds ill-conceived from start to finish. The offer of the candle and the words accompanying it imply that Hindus worship the same God as Christians, which I would have thought even a primary-school textbook would make clear is not the case.
This reminds us of other such interfaith confusions from recent years: Pope John Paul II kissing the Koran at the Vatican (May 14, 1999); allowing himself to be blessed and marked with ‘sacred ashes’ and the sign of the Tilak on the forehead by Hindu women and priestesses (Feb 2 & 5, 1986); offering sacrifice to Animist forest-spirits in Togo, Africa (August 8, 1985); praying with a buddha on the altar at Assisi whilst buddhists chanted their ritual incantations around the altar (Oct 27, 1986), and doing nothing to remove them; allowing a pagan mexican shaman/priestess to perform a cleansing ritual and ‘exorcism’ on him during a canonisation Mass in Mexico (July 31, 2002) … etc …
We know Pope John Paul II was a good good Pope (probably a saint), but some of these gestures have sewed confusion, and misunderstanding (saints can make mistakes), and led to other imitations inside the Church by others who are not formed so well, which have gone a lot further, and lead to far worse consequences. Everybody knows what his intentions were, but some of these actions leave some things to be explained.
And recently, at Fatima, there have been interfaith gestures which seem to have gone too far. Some Hindus were allowed to come and offer sacrifice to their gods on the altar of the shrine at Fatima: photos here, and report of the event here.
As Catholics, we should have a deep respect for their religious sense, for their religious attitude, for their religious cult (which often includes very authentic religious gestures, and symbols, prayers, and elements – I hope that nobody here denies that) … and these are often an expression of a very deep and true dimension of human life – a dimension which is open to and seeks for transcendence – and looks for meaning, and searches for an explanation for the reality (visible and invisible) of this world. We respect all this deep religious sense, truth, and light, found embodied in other pagan religions, and expressed by members of those religions (even though it is very truly shot-through and mingled with error, superstition, magic, and shadows).
But we don’t offer sacrifice (in any form) to their false gods. The Scriptures are very clear about that, for two very good reasons: (1) it offends (sin) the Most Holy Trinity, who is the One True God (“You shall have no other God before me”: Exodus 20:3; 34:14, Deuteronomy 5:7), and (2) it confuses others in their pursuit of the truth (gives scandal).
We don’t perform actions, which give them (these Hindus) and others the impression that we believe that their gods are real, even if we respect their religious attitude, and on the inside say to ourselves “I’m only doing this so as not to offend these people. Jesus, you see my heart.”
This type of duplicity doesn’t fool God, who should be the One we are truly afraid of offending out of love (the filial gift of the Holy Spirit of Fear of the Lord), and it ends up confusing everybody else, because they can only see the outward appearances of the act in itself, not the inteior mental reservation that is held (here we are assuming that these prelates are actually making a mental reservation when they offer reverence and sacrifice to a false god – we hope they are !!)
When one offers light (candles), flowers, thanks, praise, reverence … whatever … to these “gods”, the outward action normally and ordinarily symbolizes an interior movement – towards the god – as if we think they are real: that is what people looking on from the outside will naturally begin to think. Then they end up being given the impression of, and being drawn towards, a universal cyncretism, which thinks, “Ah, the Catholic Church, and Vatican II, thinks that all religions are really all just heading towards worship of the same God. It doesn’t really matter. They’re all the same.”
This has happened too many times in recent years and it needs to stop (there are websites which document these things). Our Church men need to stand up for Christ, and respect and honour Christ first and foremost, whilst genuinely wishing to dialogue and discuss with these other religions. We can respect certain elements of their relgious cult; we can absolutely respect their religious attitude and sense, which is emminently human; but above all, we must retain and engage our respect and love for Jesus, the true Incarnation of the Divine in this world, Our Lord and Saviour: the Way, the Truth, and the Life; because, in doing so, we also genuinely love our pagan brothers and sisters, by giving them authentic witness to the truth – which they need! and which Jesus asks of us.
When we go to these “meetings”, we go as Christians, not just as human beings with a religious sense – this is very important to understand. We can dialogue at a purely human level, at a purely religious level, or at both levels, but we do so as Christians; and as such, we can’t suspend our Christian beliefs, even though we talk with others at a non-Christian level (we can do this because we are also human beings with a religious attitude). But when confronted with an action (asked of us, or imposed upon us) which will compromise our Christian faith, we must put Jesus first.
Some final questions remain: when these Hindus, Animists, Voodoo priests et al, almost impose their religious practices on us at these “meetings”, do we ever offer a Christian blessing in return? Do we offer them a special Apostolic blessing? Do we ever ask them to kiss a crucifix? Do we ever ask them to kneel as we bring out the Blessed Sacrament for half an hour of adoration of Christ, the True God? And finally, do we give them an invitation to come to a catechism class, or hand them a Bible?
Just askin… 
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